The following extensive interview features WWE Hall of Fame manager, the legendary Bobby “The Brain” Heenan. Heenan talks candidly about his time in WCW, how he got the name “Weasel”, wrestling, the Royal Rumble 1992, his live confrontation with Brian Pillman, and more. The interview was taped July 19, 2003 and broadcast on Pro Wrestling Radio.
Eric Gargiulo: Was it hard to put 30 plus years of wrestling stories and experiences in one book?
Bobby Heenan: No, it was very easy. As a matter of fact when my writer and I, Steve Anderson sat down to write it we came up with over 600 pages. What we are doing right now is, we are getting ready to do my second book. We are waiting for just the final confirmation on the deal between my agent and my publisher. Then we are going to do a second book, probably in a couple of weeks we are going to start working on it. It’s just written in the way I like to do it. I don’t want it to be like War And Peace, or the Bible, or anything tough to read. I want it to be like just a bunch of guys sitting around having some wings and a Philly Cheesesteak, and a beer, and just talking wrestling. Just a bunch of people getting together talking about one to the other, they’re not long, some of them amusing. It’s not only wrestling, it’s about my life, tells who I am, where I came from, just all kinds of stories like that. It’s forwarded by Hulk Hogan who probably said the nicest things about me that anyone has ever said in wrestling.
Bobby: No, we thought he would ask for some money. So, my writer called him and asked him, and he said, “No problem.” So he did it right there. Than I called him later on and thanked him for it and he said he was glad to do it.
Eric: Why weren’t you at the Raw Anniversary Show?
Bobby: That’s funny because Gene Okerlund called me. I saw Gene, I forget when it was but it was months before the show. He asked me, “They got you set to do the anniversary show, will you do it?” I said, “Sure.” I had lunch with Pat Patterson one day and he said, “You’re going to be on the show you know?” I said, “That’s what I hear.” But then I never heard from anyone else. So, if Gene Okerlund or Pat Patterson can pay me or make my airline reservations, or my hotel accommodations, or tell me what I’m going to be compensated for it, and they didn’t have the authority to do that. So, until I hear from someone in authority from Vince McMahon’s office with that authority, I’d make other plans. So, the Saturday before the show they called me and wanted me to come into New York and do it. I said, “I’ve already made other plans.” So, that’s what happened with that. I’d have done it if they gave me more time but you just can’t call me last minute and expect me to be like Clark Kent, jump into a phone booth and take my clothes off and fly out the window. I don’t keep my bag packed waiting for them to call, you know?
Eric G: Your match with Sal Bellomo many years ago from Madison Square Garden seemed to come out of nowhere. How did that come about? Was that something scheduled or was that something last minute?
Bobby: No, that was just the way it was booked by Vince McMahon and George Scott at the time. I also had a single match in the Meadowlands against S.D. Jones. I had no idea why they would do that. Just those two times. Then I worked some six-man tags and stuff down the road with Bundy and Studd, but I don’t know why they booked that match in there. I have no idea why.
Eric G: I comment that at the time, I remember watching it and thought it was an odd match.
Bobby: Yeah, because there was no build up for it, or any reason for it. I just do what I’m told, I don’t cause any problems. I’m not a wrestler, I don’t have too. You wanna see wrestling, go to Iowa. You wanna see wrestling on television, turn the channel on.
Eric G: Take us through 7:00 PM before you are going to broadcast on a WWF pay per view, as compared to 7:00 PM before you go to broadcast on a WCW pay per view?
Bobby: Well, at Vince McMahon’s pay per view you get there at noon. You go in there and have a production meeting. That lasts about two hours. He’ll ask everyone questions about what we think about the program. He will read us all the program, what everyone is going to do, when they are going to through to this, when they are going to have this tape up, how the entrances are going to come, goes through everything. A whole mess of people in the room from merchandise people to television production people, no wrestlers. Just the agents, announcers, and stuff like that. Then, we get out of there about 2, 2:30. Some of you might have to do pre-taped segments, some people might have to do other things. I used to produce the interviews. I’d go to a booth with George Steele. He’d go to a booth, I’d go to another, and then we would bring in the talent, and they’d cut the interviews, and we’d produce and direct them. About 5:00 I would start to get dressed and go back and relax. Let’s say the show starts at 7:00. 6:00 I’m in make up, just getting dusted, get the shine off my face. Then I’d go in and get into my tux, or whatever happens. Then around 6:30 I get with Monsoon and go over anything we want to talk about. He would ask me if there was anything I want to talk about special. I’d say something like, “When we get out there, in the third match ask me about the tree.” “What tree?” “Just ask me about the tree.” That’s just the way we did it, we never had anything written between us. 6:50 they would come and get us, walk Monsoon and I to the announce position, we would put on our headsets, we would test them, we’d talk to the truck, talk to the back, make sure everybody could hear everybody, we had our formats. 7:00 the bell would ring, we’d do the program, 10:00 it was over, Monsoon and I would walk back, shake hands, thank each other, Vince would be there, he’d thank us, the agents and everyone else would say, “Great show.” Everybody would compliment everybody, I’d go take a shower, go have some beer, go to bed. WCW, you get there at 1:00 for a production meeting, someone would read you the matches, and that was it. You’d be done in 20 minutes. Then you’d have all day to spend in the building, there was nothing to do. So, you go to catering, you sit there and have some horrible, horrible food. I’m telling you, Charles Manson killed seven people and he’s eating better than us. I’m not kidding you. That food would have kept people’s dogs from begging at the table. All you had to do was feed it to them. Not much you can do with cream of Spam and a Tab. Around 5 or 6:00 I would find Mike Tenay and Tony (Schivonne). Tony was hard to find, he didn’t like to meet with us or anybody else. Then, Mike and I would talk about what we wanted to do, I’d put my tux on, go to make up. Everybody in there (make up) looked like Mount Rushmore. They couldn’t put their own make up, they weren’t going to put it on me. Nobody had any formats yet. “They’re still working on them. They have some changes to make.” 6:50 would come, we’d walk to our announce position and we had no formats. We didn’t know what was coming on first. The bell would ring at 7:00, they would move us around. “No, you sit on this side. We got your name underneath you for the television.” They had us in the wrong chairs. They had a Production Assistant. This woman that looked like, well I don’t even know how to describe her. She would always spill water on you or knock over something. Like Mr. Magoo. Whoever came out first, we’d talk about them, we didn’t know who was coming out, we didn’t know how they changed things. Then about the second match, the end of the first, or sometimes the top of the third if it was Monday Nitro, she’d come out with the papers and give them to you. Maybe 7 sheets. Now, if you had 7 loose pieces of paper where would you put the staple? She put it in the lower right hand corner. What are we from Tibet? Who reads like that? There is only one corner to put it in. You turn it from right to left. That’s the thing. Sometimes they didn’t have pens for us. Then we’d come back, there would be nobody to say, “Great show, you did great, how are you.” They’d walk right by you, like city of the living dead. That was the average pay per view. Then I’d go back and instead of relaxing and drinking a beer like I would do after WWF, I went back to the room, tried to put my belt over the shower rod so I could hang myself. I’m not kidding you. Only two reasons I was there. One, my daughter was going to the University of Alabama, and another was they had insurance. I never had insurance, I broke my neck in 1983 in Japan, and I didn’t have it operated on until 1995 because I had no insurance. There’s no benefits, no paid vacations, no profit sharing, there’s nothing. Vince sent us every quarter the statements from merchandise. I’d make some money off some stuff I had out there. In WCW if you had merchandise you got paid, but nobody ever really knew the numbers. Just like Wrestlemania 3, 93,000 people, it could have been 98,000 people or 87. We don’t know. Unless you sell every ticket or sign the check, you’ll never know how they pay you. So, that’s the difference between WCW and WWF. And, what was the announcer’s name with me and Tenay? Can you say it again?
Eric G: Tony Schivonne
Bobby: (flushes a toilet)
Eric G: You tell a great story in your book about running into Tony on New Year’s Eve after WCW closed.
Bobby: Yeah, he was sitting across the bar from me, he and his wife, and I stared at him, and he tried to make like he didn’t see me. I stared at him. So, he kind of looked away and I still stared at him, so he and his wife finally left. Tenay said, “Why were you staring at him?” I said, “If I can’t trust somebody I have to watch them.”
Eric G: Were you confused when you were told you were replaced on Nitro by Mark Madden because he had more of an MTV look?
Bobby: I understand Willie Nelson has hired Mark Madden to hang around with him so he won’t look bad. It’s not Madden’s fault he looks that way, he chooses to look like that. He dresses like an unmade bed, he’s overweight, annoying and rude to some people, I guess. He’s always been nice to me, I am just saying my first impression. See, they (WCW) didn’t understand the Bobby Heenan character. They wanted me to be an announcer and that’s it. They wanted me to be serious when a guy was hurt or something. That’s not Bobby Heenan. Bobby Heenan is a guy that works for a used car lot. Not a Ford dealership, he works for Lucky Larry’s Auto. Bobby Heenan is the kind of guy that would help an old woman across the street and than go through her purse. I wouldn’t care if a guy was hurt, would I? WCW wanted me to be Pat Summerall or John Madden. So, I through my hands up and said, “Forget it.” I was going to keep my insurance, I was making a good chunk of money for the year, and I just rode with it. How would they know if I was good? They didn’t know what was bad.
Eric G: I bring up his call of the 1992 Royal Rumble and comment that his announcing puts that match over as one of the all time classics.
Bobby: Everyone has always complimented me on that match. Ric Flair came out second, do you remember? I told Vince to have him come out first. Nobody has ever come out first and lasted an entire Rumble. But, he had to change it and make him come out second. I really enjoyed doing that match, I really got into it. Sometimes you can’t get into it, you take a match where some guys do the same thing all the time. Sometimes you do repeat yourself, you say the same lines, because you can’t come up with anything new, because they do not do anything new. This time it was different. I felt the excitement building in me and I tried to build it to the end, to the end, to the end, and Monsoon just looked at me and winked, and let me go with it. It was the most fun I had broadcast. The other thing about my gimmick was, I wasn’t a great announcer, I wasn’t a broadcast journalist, I was just a guy that could talk, and I had a gimmick of, “The Brain.” So, no if I screwed up it didn’t matter, because people expected me too. I didn’t have to be high powered like Bob Costas, I could be a buffoon, and people expected that of me. Like Jesse Ventura told me once, “You out to get Monsoon some time. He always gets you.” I said, “No Jesse, people don’t want to see me get Monsoon. They want to see him get me.” So that was the beauty of what I did. I was , “The Brain” and anything that I screwed up, people could enjoy it, it was entertaining, and I didn’t have to prepare for anything.
Eric G: I heard a story once about Andre The Giant almost pulling out Jake Roberts’ hair?
Bobby: He would stand on his hair and than pick him up. He would be lying on his back, Jake had long hair, so Andre would just bend down and try and pick him up. He’d leave strands of hair on the mat.
Eric G: You made some brilliant remarks about Bruiser Brody in your book, that you rarely hear from other people. Not to speak ill of the dead, but could you expand on those?
Bobby: Wrestling, you cannot kill wrestling you can only bruise it. But, Eric Bischoff did kill wrestling at WCW. First of all, and I will get back to Bruiser Brody. If Eric Bischoff was such a great producer why would he have put the tag team belt on Bagwell’s mother? Why would he have put the world belt on David Arquette? Why would they make the Nitro Girls into wrestlers? Why would you beat Goldberg? Nothing they did made sense, so they did kill it. Now, we were talking about Brody. He never killed a territory, but if he had a bug up his butt and didn’t want to do something, he wouldn’t show up. What about the guy that lives in that town, and works there, and is a wrestler? He may be making $50 a night, and if the house comes up when Brody is there, maybe he makes $75? The guy is looking forward to that. So, Brody leaves, doesn’t come back, the next time that guy comes to work he may get $35. When you are the top guy, you owe some responsibility to the fans, and the guys underneath. Nobody can see you win unless somebody puts you over. I didn’t like him, I didn’t respect him, I was always worried that he would snap, he just wasn’t fun to be around. You ask me a question, and I’m not going to lie to you. I have lied all my life on television, now it’s time not too. The only real thing about wrestling is my book (laughs).
Eric G: Explain the theory of wrestling like a manager and managing like a wrestler?
Bobby: First of all when I started managing in 1965, a manager was either a young kid who was too skinny and couldn’t wrestle, or just starting out. They wanted him to talk for a guy that just couldn’t talk, or be there at the end to take bumps and save the match. Or a guy that was too old to wrestle anymore, but still had the gift of gab like a Blassie. A lot of people think Blassie was a manager for all of those years, I was the only manager in the history of this business that managed as long as I did. From 1965-1991, and wrestled. Blassie didn’t start managing until the late 70’s, when he was done wrestling. Same with Albano, same with a lot of the guys. I was managing longest than anybody. The reason I changed things was, I didn’t want to wear a tuxedo, and I didn’t want to carry a cane. That means one hand isn’t free, somebody is going to nail me. Or, I can’t take bumps because I have a cane in my hand. And, if somebody gets the cane, they will kill me. You don’t want to wear a tuxedo, because I take bumps every night. Where am I going to get a tuxedo cleaned everyday? Where am I going to clean a white shirt with blood all over it? Forget that. Sunglasses? I want to see everybody in that building when I am coming out to the ring. I’ve been shot at, I’ve been cut, I’ve had acid thrown on me. I had five people shot in Chicago one night in a match with Bockwinkel, Verne Gagne, and I. So, I’m aware of the people out there and what could happen. So, I just started wearing different kinds of warm up suits, I had my wife sew sequins on them and everything, and I changed to look like a manager. I bleached my hair. Then I decided I was going to manage like a wrestler and wrestle like a manager. What does that mean? When I’m outside the ring managing, when my man is hit, I’m going to register too. I’m going to act as if I have an investment in this man. I’m not going to sit there, with a cane, and sunglasses, and give the people the finger and yell at them. No, I am going to concentrate on my man in that ring. When the end comes and they bring me to that ring, I’m gonna take bumps comparable to anyone in the business. I’m gonna take bumps like a wrestler. Now, when I wrestle I am going to get in there like a coward. I’m going to back off, and run, and be scared to death. I wrestle like a manager and manage like a wrestler. That is what that means.
Eric G: Who was a guy that you saw that had a ton of potential, but never realized it.
Bobby: There are a lot of good guys that just because of their size did not make it. When you were wrestling Hogan in those days, Vince wanted the Studds, the Andres, the Bundys, the big guys. When Hulk beat them, it made Hulk even stronger. Curt Hennig, Mr. Perfect had enormous potential. Just mechanical in the ring, Dustin Rhodes is a great performer. Barry Windham. There is another story right there. There are guys I named right there that could go out there and have a match with a worm, and tear the house down. Than you get a guy like John Studd, who was a real nice man, a real gentleman, I loved him. But, he couldn’t do anything in the ring. He was too big and clumsy. So, when he wrestled Andre, that looked good on paper. But, when you bought your ticket, you wanted to see Andre do giant things to him. You wanted to see Andre pick him up, press him, slam him, backdrop him, suplex him, Studd couldn’t do them. Difference there is that Studd made more money than all of those guys. But, he couldn’t do the job they did. It’s all part of acting, did they fit the part? It’s like Mickey Rooney is a great actor, but he wouldn’t look good in Gone With The Wind. It’s all about the part you play.
Caller (Steve): Can you comment on why you think Tully Blanchard, Arn Anderson, and Ken Patera were not more successful as belt holders?
Bobby: Because whoever made that decision, whether it was Vince McMahon in the WWF or if it was in the days of WCW, Eric Bischoff, or the Crocketts. In the days of the NWA, that was voted on by a committee. The champion would have to put up a $25,000 deposit on the belt, so if he didn’t wanna do a job one night and get beat, or didn’t wanna do what they said, and ran off with the belt one night, they kept the 25 grand. Then when he’d drop the belt, he would get his 25 grand back and interest on the bond. In WWF, if you ran off with the belt Vince would make another one. It didn’t matter. Vince made all of the decisions, it wasn’t us.
Caller (Steve): I think Tully Blanchard was a better wrestler than Ric Flair. Was that just my imagination? Comments on Ken Patera?
Bobby: I don’t think so, I really don’t. Ric Flair is like Liberace or Cher. He is never going to let you down with a performance. Ric Flair is one of the best. Ken was Ken, he was fun.
Caller (Vince): Comments on Jim Duggan?
Bobby: I was just with Duggan last Sunday night. I was in South Bend, IN. They had an independent show there, and I went to see some of my friends. By the way, the Mayor of Indianapolis made the day, Bobby Heenan Day, the 20th of July. Second time in Indianapolis, two different mayors. Duggan is a cancer survivor too, and he looked great. He still looks the same. He still had one eye watching me and the other watching a fly.
Caller (Vince): Comments on Hillbilly Jim?
Bobby: Jim is a good guy, you know when I was sick, sometimes you can judge who your friend is and who is not. Jim called me, must have been three or four times when I was sick. He told a lot of guys. Even Kamala sent me an email, Slick called me on the phone, Verne Gagne came to my house. Angelo Mosca drove down twice from Canada to see me. You drive 1600 miles one way with your wife in the car, you must really want to see somebody. And Vince McMahon has never called me. There is no heat there, at least I don’t think. I’m 58 and I don’t fit anything he’s doing because he wants a younger, more MTV look I guess, they’re doing things a little differently than I did, I couldn’t do a three hour show probably broadcasting. Some words don’t come out that clear anymore. I could be like a Good Will Ambassador. I could meet and greet people. I wouldn’t even have to be on the air. I don’t even care if I ever work again really, but I would have thought that he would have called me.
Caller (Chris): What are your thoughts on the new trend of high flyers today, like Jeff Hardy?
Bobby: I think they are ridiculous. I will tell you why, because it doesn’t mean anything anymore. They are flying around the ring and they are going to hurt themselves. Like I said in the first half hour, there is no insurance. Vince may take care of you for a little bit, but if you break your back, he is not going to take care of you for the rest of your life. You wanna be a wrestler, be a wrestler. It’s a dream, it’s something inside of you, it’s something you couldn’t have talked me out of doing. But my God, to throw a guy through five or six tables, for a guy to come off the top of a cage to the floor, they are all very spectacular moves, but once you do it, it’s over. Now there is going to be a guy that wants to come off the ceiling next time, he is going to want to come up through the floor, who knows what they are going to want to do. Plus, they take all of these horrendous bumps and nobody sells them! They don’t mean nothing. They aren’t doing high spots anymore, they are doing routines like the Rockettes. They are just going to get hurt, and if you watch a match on some of these independent shows I have been looking at, some of the guys are great, but they all do the same thing. Nobody watches what the other guy did before him. I guess it don’t mean anything anymore, but the high flyers today. Believe me, the promotion don’t care about you. You are done and gone, when they want to get you done and gone. That is just the way it is. Those guys are taking all kinds of goofy bumps, and the promoters will use you as long as you take those goofy bumps, because that makes their shows spectacular, but when you are hurt, you are hurt, and it’s over.
Eric G: I comment on his over the top rope high spot he used to do, and how the fans would eat it up. Less was more in that aspect.
Bobby: You’re right, they only want to see a few things out of a heel. All a heel has to do is be sneaky and a coward, and take bumps. That’s it. You don’t have to do anything else. You don’t have to be strong to be in our business, you have to look strong. You don’t have to be tough, you have to sound tough. You have to be humble, if you are a babyface you have to make the people cry. You don’t have to go through tables. You can get more heat out of the match if the referee is not looking and you pull the guy’s hair, and the referee asks you, and you say, “No.” Than the people are going to get involved. Make them part of the show. Entertain them. But than if you pull the hair right in front of the ref, all the heat’s going on the referee, and nobody bought a ticket to see Earl Hebner. That’s the truth. You get more heat when you sneak. I snuck out of the house four times last year, boy did I get heat.
Caller (Chris): Comment on Sabu?
Bobby: I know him, but his body is all scarred up from taking all of those goofy bumps. He just looks like the kind of guy that wouldn’t mind stepping out in front of a train. Some people just like that. Some people like to really hurt themselves. I don’t know, I don’t want to get hurt by anybody.
Caller (Chris): I brought up the high spots because a lot of today’s kids want to be the next Rob Van Dam or Sabu.
Bobby: Yeah, but how much money are Rob Van Dam and Sabu making? Where is Rob Van Dam on the cards? You don’t see Goldberg going through those tables, or Austin, or the Rock.
Caller (Chris): I wish you well, I just got out of the hospital myself so I know how you feel.
Bobby: There’s nothing like a hot bed pan. Rather than go back to work with Tony Schivonne or go back to work for WCW, I’d rather kiss a hospital mop.
Eric G: When you, and the new managers started in the WWF, was there any pressure from the older guys to do less out at ringside?
Bobby: No, Jimmy Hart was there after me. See, you have to understand something. Everybody had a different style. Albano’s was to run around with his shirt ripped open, and rubber bands on his face. And people wanted to see him do that. And Freddy, the reason he didn’t run around or anything was because HE WAS 97 YEARS OLD! Freddie wasn’t going to take bumps, Freddie was in his 60’s or 70’s. His days were over. When Freddie worked, he drew money he never took bumps, he would just bite you. If you wanted Freddie off of his feet you had to call Triple A. Freddie never gave me advice on managing or anything like that.
Caller (Bill): You had a lot a little confrontation with Brian Pillman, did you have any ramifications with the big shots at WCW for dropping the F bomb?
Bobby: No, they weren’t even watching. They didn’t even know it. When you are doing color commentary, you never look in the ring. Because you have to watch your monitor, because you can only talk about what the cameras are shooting. So, if I saw a guy in the ring and he was going in his trunks to get something, and I was telling Monsoon about it, or Mike Tenay, and it was not on television, it would not make sense. So, I could only watch that monitor. You understand? So, Pillman was outside the ring fighting and someone else was outside the ring fighting, and they (cameras) were shooting the other two. Pillman came up behind me for a joke and pulled my coat down over my shoulders. I had neck surgery, I had broken my neck. Everybody knew not to touch me. So, when that happened I thought a fan had jumped over the rail. That’s when I said, “What the F!” It was Pillman. I went back and told Eric Bischoff, I told someone else, and David Crockett. I said, “I just said the F word on tv.” Bischoff said, “Why?” They didn’t even know. I could have talked out there like Andrew Dice Clay and they would not have known it.
Caller (Bill): I think the WWF could have done a better job with your exit?
Bobby: Well, that was decided at the production meeting that afternoon. Vince asked me how I wanted to go. I said, “However you want.” He said, “What do you think?” I said, “Have Monsoon throw me out the door. Since you didn’t think of anything in advance.” Funny thing was, when he threw me out the door, I walked around to the side of that bus, Monsoon was waiting in a car. I got in the car, Monsoon and I went back to the hotel, and we didn’t say anything to each other. We got in the elevator, we got up to our floor, I got off, I shook his hand and I said, “Goodbye.” He said, “Goodbye.” I walked to my room, I get to my room, and somebody had sent me a fruit basket. So I called him in his room and said, “Hey you big ape, you want a banana?” He said, “Yeah I’ll have a banana.” I said, “Ok, I’ll bring it down to you.” So I walked back, down to his door, he was waiting in the hall, we hugged and cried for a half of an hour. That was my last night at the WWF.
Caller (Ron): Who gave you the nick name Weasel?
Bobby: The Crusher, he used to always sing. He had a gimmick as a Polish beer drinking guy from Milwaukee. He’d have a cigar in his mouth and he’d say, “When I chase the weasel around the post, pop goes the weasel!” He’d sing it like that, like a polka, and that went over the people.
Caller (Ron): Memories of your Weasel Suit matches against the Ultimate Warrior?
Bobby: The Ultimate Warrior was not one of my favorite people. I would do anything, just about for money. I’m a paid actor and what they want me to do, I’ll do. If I don’t wanna do it, I’ll quit and go work somewhere else. No, I didn’t enjoy working with the Ultimate Warrior because he didn’t protect you, he didn’t protect your body. It would take a lot for me to ever do that again.
Eric G: Thoughts on Dynamite Kid?
Bobby: The Dynamite Kid and I were buddies. I loved him. I was in Montreal one night and he took all the clothes out of everyone’s bags. He was funny, I liked him.
Eric G: Thoughts on the Valiants?
Bobby: The Valiants, they were liars, they were not great workers, I didn’t enjoy being around them. They’d always con someone for a ride or something, they never paid their way. They were flimflam men. Guys like that, that always duck and dodge, they don’t wanna pay for a room, they wanna sleep in your room, use your car, mooch off something. Any guy I have ever seen do that, did it to save money, and when they were done in the business every one of those guys had nothing. It’s the truth. We were in Indianapolis one night eating at a restaurant that a friend of mine owned, and the Valiants said, “We’ll take you to dinner. You’re always giving us rides.” I never charged them. We’re done with dinner, and I couldn’t find the Valiants. So I figured they went back to the motel. I went back to the motel and they went out the back door, one climbed out the window I think. They stiffed the guy on the bill. I went back and had to pay the bill. I had to give the girl a $50 tip just to save face. Stuff like that they would do. That’s just the way they are, they are not my kind of people.
Eric G: I thank Bobby for doing the show and tell him what a treat it has been.
Bobby: Well thank you, you know I was thinking of starting a managers school, think it would work? I’m down here in Florida, so I am not sure when I am going to put it together, or if it is even feasible to do something like that. I am looking into it more with Steve Keirn, you know who used to be Skinner. He’s got a ring down here and a gym, and I was thinking of doing a little fantasy camp for three or four days down here, just have some fun, show some people what to do, and what not to do, but I don’t know if there is any market for that or not. I’m going to throw it out there and take a look at maybe doing something like that next summer. Anytime you need a guest, just give me a call and remember. A friend in need is a pest.
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