Edge Pro Wrestling Radio Interview

Edge shoot interviewThe following interview features former WWE champion Edge (Adam Copeland). Edge talks about his book, wrestling Randy Orton, Vince McMahon, Ric Flair and more. The interview was taped November 02, 2004 and was broadcast on Pro Wrestling Radio.

Eric Gargiulo: General question that I ask all the guys who write books, what inspired you to write this one?

Edge: Unlike the other guys, except for Mick Foley, [there’s] no ghostwriter, no guy following me around for a week, and, basically, filling in the gaps. This one all came out of the gray matter in my brain; there’s not much there, but you know what I mean.

Eric: (Laughs)

Edge: It was one of those deals, honestly, I ended up breaking my neck. I had a year off, so I thought, I might as well to do something constructive with my time instead of sitting on my couch and feeling sorry for myself. I had always kept a journal throughout my career, so I compiled it into one journal, into one big one. I started writing a column on WWE.com, and I guess, somebody started reading the column from the office and said ‘hey, this is pretty good.’ So he contacted me and said, ‘Would you be interested in doing it (writing the book)?’ I said, ‘Yes, if I write it and it’s not a ghostwriter.’ I submitted twenty chapters in and they sent it to Simon & Schuster and they said ‘let’s do this.’ At least I did something with my year off; I didn’t just sit around. I got myself back in shape, but also, I wrote a book, which is something I always wanted to do, because I read so much. I’m a pretty avid reader, so it’s something I wanted to do, but I honestly didn’t think I would ever end up getting to do it. It’s pretty cool; I’m really excited, right now, character-wise and professionally, everything’s been going really good.

Eric: Excellent. One of the thing’s I’ve noticed in reading through your book was when you had different problems or different questions that arose, you had mentioned in the book, that you would go and approach Vince [McMahon]. It seemed to me that Vince is real approachable, just from reading your book.

Edge: He’s approachable, if you aren’t afraid to approach him. A lot of guys [don’t] because of the Vince stigma, ‘oh, it’s Vince McMahon, I can’t go talk to him.’ You go up and talk to Vince, that’s what he wants, but it just takes going up to him that first time, getting the guts up that first time to do it and then you realize, ‘wow, this is really what he wants.’ He’s looking for guys to do that. I made sure I wasn’t going up to him every five minutes or anything, but if it was something I felt strongly about I’d go to him and get his opinion. Nine times out of ten, he agreed. I found, if you want to get something done, if you feel strongly about something, you have to go to the main man. He is approachable.

Eric: You can definitely tell from reading your book. Now, you and I have a mutual friend, and I had told him that I was interviewing you today for the radio show, and he asked to me to repeat this to you, now it wasn’t in the book, but it sounds like a very funny story. Right after your surgery, something happened where you lost your pass key to your gated community.

Edge: (Laughs) I went over to Germany on a promotional trip, about six months out from the surgery, and I had forgotten my gate clicker, because I live in a gated community, you need that to get in or you can punch in a code which dials directly to my house and then I let you in, except there was nobody to let me in, because I was the only one home. I had to figure out what to do. I had to climb this twelve-foot wall.

Eric: (Laughs)

Edge: I was a little nervous on top of that thing. I’m sure my neighbors were just going, ‘What the hell is going on here?’ But yeah, I had to jump down off a wall.

Eric: Right after six months after surgery.

Edge: Yeah, then I got in, I got my clicker out and I had to jump back over it again, the opposite way this time.

Eric: Oh no.

Edge: I hopped back in the car and went home. It was a little bit of fiasco there, especially after a week in Germany, I just wanted to get home and when I realized I didn’t have it, I was pretty frustrated at that point. It all worked out.

Eric: Absolutely. In Jerry Lawler’s book [and] in Steve Austin’s book, they wrote a lot in depth about their divorces, even when I had Steve on the show, he talked about how therapeutic it was to just get it all out there. Did you think at all, in any point, you would put it out there, or are you a private person and just wanted to keep that stuff to yourself?

Edge: I figured that one I would keep closed. I thought what does it do for everyone to read my divorce? Are they going to gain anything out of that, really? The company, actually approached me, and said ‘could I put more dirt on this’ and I said ‘honestly, you’re not going to get it.’ I’m not going to be the kind of guy that slings mud after a six-year relationship. It just didn’t seem right to me. I wanted to take the high road on it and I didn’t want to bring that down into the low road. So I thought, you know what, I’ll mention it, I’ll briefly touch on it, because it was all encompassed in the year being off with the neck. I thought, if anything, the year made me realize that I needed to do it, so I spoke about that and I said, ‘okay, well that’s good.’ Who knows with what I could’ve said, I could’ve ended up with a libel suit. (Laughs)

Eric: (Laughs) Probably made the smart choice, then.

Edge: I was thinking.

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Eric: In contrast to the last WWE book, Ric Flair’s book, you really only took a subtle shot at one person in there, in the mainstream, at least that I could pick out, which was Jeff Jarrett. It was very subtle. Was that also conscious on your part to not really get into slinging mud at anybody currently or who was on the roster?

Edge: You know what the thing was, I actually sat down ad read it, and I’m like, ‘hey, I don’t have any controversy here, should I try to think of any?’ In contrast to Ric, who’s been in the industry longer then I’ve been alive, he’s experienced these bad experiences with people, not to say that it’s Ric’s fault at all, because I totally respect Ric. He’s running some bad scenarios with the Bischoffs and I just never had. From day one, I’ve just been happy that I’m actually wrestling. When I’m in there, I’m not going to have a problem with, ‘you have to put Chris Benoit over,’ ‘great, no problem.’ I’m doing what I love to do and I have to go out there and feel like a million bucks and have fun. So that kind of stuff, I never really had any problems with anybody, so I thought that I’m not going to create any.

Eric: (Laughs)

Edge: I’m not going to start my own angle in a book, if there’s nothing there, because there really isn’t. I talked about Vince Russo, and some of his (pauses) ideas.

Eric: Yeah.

Edge: Even Jeff, I’ve always got along with Jeff, but there were nights, if he wasn’t going over, you knew the difference. I think Jeff’s awesome; I saw him about a year ago in Toronto. He was doing the TNA thing; I was doing the WWE thing. It was good to see him again, because I consider him a friend.

Eric: Cool. Now, it seemed like in summertime, they were really building towards you and Benoit for the title at Summerslam, and then it kind of went into a different direction. What happened there?

Edge: I don’t really know; they just decided it was just too soon to do the heel thing, the whole heel turn. Originally, that was the direction we were going and Chris got really amped up for it. I thought it was going to be fun, going to be great. They just decided we’re going to hold off on it and then it became we’re going to hold off another month and another month. I was like, ‘I want to turn heel already.’

Eric: (Laughs)

Edge: Our audience was telling us that they wanted me to. We finally got to a point where you go Toronto, which is your hometown and you get booed, even when Batista is doing stuff you get booed…

Eric: (Laughs)

Edge: We couldn’t hold it off any longer. 99% of the time, our audience is instrumental in telling us what they want. When Rock was being shoved down everybody’s throat, when he was Rocky Maivia with the pineapple on the top of his head, as the babyface guy, they turned on it, they didn’t like it, so he became a heel, and became such an awesome heel that he became a babyface. It’s just one of those things. Right now, I’m having so much fun. It is so much more fun to piss people off. [It’s so hard] to get people to like you. If you try too hard to get them to like you, they just go ‘too hard,’ and if you don’t try hard enough, they go, ‘what’s his deal?’ As a heel, you can just let it all out. You can be whiny, you can be bitter, disgruntled, whatever you want, and blame it on everybody else. (Laughs) It’s a lot of fun. In a way, I’m taking the year of frustrations and channeling it into the character.

Eric: I had you on the show five years ago, you and Christian just started to do the program with the Hardys and I told you, after seeing one or two matches, that I was comparing it early on to the Midnight Express-Rock N Roll Express feud. We talked a little about that. It’s very ironic, because when I watching you and Randy Orton, a couple months ago, when you guys had the little program going, it almost reminded me of seeing a young Triple H and Rock program.

Edge: That’s kind of the way I look at it, too, which is funny. As we were in the matches, I thought ‘we are going to be doing this a lot more in the future.’ It’s just one of those things that worked. It doesn’t always work like that; it’s not always one of those things where you connect to this guy as an opponent, but with Randy and I, it did. I had a lot of fun working with him and it’s a given that you will probably see Edge and Randy Orton for the world title at some point. I think it’s a definite, just like when you saw Rock and Triple H feuding over the I.C. title, you know it was going to go other places. I’d like to think it’s going to and I’m pretty sure it will.

Eric: In closing, especially, over the past couple years, with the injuries that you’ve accumulated, I know it’s kind of it’s damned if you do and damned if you don’t, do you kind of regret at all doing those crazy TLC and cage match spots and those kinds of things or do you think that your body, at that point in your career, would have given out anyway to injury?

Edge: Do I think the accumulation of the punishment from those matches helped get me to where I was? Yeah, but they are also the matches that helped me get to where I am, if that makes any sense.

Eric: Definitely.

Edge: We had to do those. We felt we had to do that to get our name out, to get people to notice. In the book, I say that some people can do it posing, some people can do it talking trash and drinking beer, we thought we needed to be daredevils, so that was going to be our thing. We sat down with the Hardys and decided this is what we’re going to do. Add in the Dudleys and it was like –uh oh.

Eric: (Laughs)

Edge: I don’t regret it. Do I think it helped the degeneration of my neck? Yeah, I do. And weaken my shoulders, my elbows, and my knees? Yeah, I do. I think, eventually, I would have ended up with all these injuries, anyway. Every wrestler gets injured; it just so happens that mine seem to come in a cluster of five, right in a row. (Laughs)

Eric: (Laughs)

Edge: I think it was actually four, but by the ruptured groin, I was like, ‘okay, it’s got to be it now.’ It was pretty frustrating, but the phrase I use in the book- it ain’t ballet. If you read it then go on about getting dropkicked by guys in leotards. (Laughs)

Eric: (Laughs) Well, I want to congratulate you on the book. It’s always great when I get to have guys like you and Chris Jericho, that were on when the show first started in the ’99, and see you guys succeed and have you back. I want to wish you the best out there.

Edge: Thank you, I appreciate it.

Eric: Thank you very much and again, good luck with the book.

Edge: Thank you.

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